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Reply #15
« on: January 07, 2005, 10:34:29 PM »
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In my next life I expect to explore this issue.
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Reply #16
« on: January 07, 2005, 11:32:41 PM »
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Rip off all the ties

That's one of the big problems - if you use ties, you force all the wiring to be closer together, and that could lead to more potential interference problems. And unless you buy reusable ones, you end up wasting loads of them.


If this were the case then why do so many radio/TV/Audio installations have huge bundles of cables with wire wrap ties? If the cable is well sheilded there shouldn't be any interference to begin with and would not matter whether they are bundled or not.
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Reply #17
« on: January 07, 2005, 11:42:29 PM »
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You mean that there's no chance he'll plug himself into it somewhere?

Velly intellesting observation.  Try doing some investigation via photo URL backtracking and see what you come up with...

Actually, I checked the picture properties before I posted. Then I looked carefully at the picture, and decided that he was a he. Laurie is a unisex name, certainly in the UK. One of our best-loved male writers was called Laurie Lee...

And afterwards I checked it back further, and discovered that I was, of course, wrong...  embarassed  But since she admits to being a 'girl nerd', I've decided to make her (Laurie Spiegel) an Honoury Bloke - I hope she doesn't mind!

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    Reply #18
    « on: January 07, 2005, 11:49:40 PM »
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    If this were the case then why do so many radio/TV/Audio installations have huge bundles of cables with wire wrap ties? If the cable is well sheilded there shouldn't be any interference to begin with and would not matter whether they are bundled or not.

    Loads of reasons! Firstly, people are being paid to do this, and not having to pay for their own cable ties. And in a professional installation, they should be using correct industrial-guage installation cables for everything - and even when they do, they separate out the power wiring into different trays as a rule. In your domestic wiring rats-nest, you are much more likely to have a raft of different, cheaper, less well-screened cables - and the chances are that a lot of it won't be balanced, either. If you have professional cabling at home, and know that you won't need to change wiring looms, then yes of course it's fine to wire-wrap it - it's just that most of the cables that you'd want to tie at home are going to be a mixed economy at best, and this is where the interference problems are likely to arise.
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    Reply #19
    « on: January 08, 2005, 02:04:36 AM »
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    D'oh!  I thought the HE Steve was refferring to was Zemlin!   Tongue  Thereby creating a new connection where there was none before.

    The pic kinda looks like a synthesiser from the old days.  With the patch depicted you can play 'Lucky Man'.
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    « on: January 08, 2005, 02:08:25 AM »
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    D'oh!  I thought the HE Steve was refferring to was Zemlin!   Tongue  Thereby creating a new connection where there was none before.

    No, definitely Laurie. I read a bit more - it seems that her father was expecting a boy, and gave her a soldering iron and a load of components when she was nine, or whatever...

    Looks like my bestowed 'Honoury Bloke' status is getting firmer!
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    Reply #21
    « on: January 08, 2005, 02:53:08 AM »
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    Quote from: SteveG
    Quote from: AudioVAULT_Guy

    If this were the case then why do so many radio/TV/Audio installations have huge bundles of cables with wire wrap ties? If the cable is well sheilded there shouldn't be any interference to begin with and would not matter whether they are bundled or not.

    Loads of reasons! Firstly, people are being paid to do this, and not having to pay for their own cable ties. And in a professional installation, they should be using correct industrial-guage installation cables for everything - and even when they do, they separate out the power wiring into different trays as a rule. In your domestic wiring rats-nest, you are much more likely to have a raft of different, cheaper, less well-screened cables - and the chances are that a lot of it won't be balanced, either. If you have professional cabling at home, and know that you won't need to change wiring looms, then yes of course it's fine to wire-wrap it - it's just that most of the cables that you'd want to tie at home are going to be a mixed economy at best, and this is where the interference problems are likely to arise.


    That sounds reasonable and logical. What was I thinking!
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    Reply #22
    « on: January 08, 2005, 04:37:27 PM »
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    Quote from: SteveG
    I read a bit more - it seems that her father was expecting a boy, and gave her a soldering iron and a load of components when she was nine, or whatever...

    Looks like my bestowed 'Honoury Bloke' status is getting firmer!

    With that depth an investigation, which I didn't do, we'll dub you Sherlock.  I did see the lady's pic which tipped me.  Actually, I'm quite surprised the extent to which one can go.  Not having done any checking of my own, I'll ask the question:  Is this openness normal, and expected, or a mistake on the other end? I'm a bit cryptic here purposefully.
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    Reply #23
    « on: January 08, 2005, 04:52:58 PM »
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    Quote from: Cal

    With that depth an investigation, which I didn't do, we'll dub you Sherlock.  I did see the lady's pic which tipped me.  Actually, I'm quite surprised the extent to which one can go.  Not having done any checking of my own, I'll ask the question:  Is this openness normal, and expected, or a mistake on the other end? I'm a bit cryptic here purposefully.

    I'm not sure if I can answer that question at all - but if you drop back one section of the picture URL, it becomes a lot easier to see what else is available. There's quite a lot (and some 'music'), and I was vaguely intrigued. Then I listened to the 'music'... elevator, here we come.
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