Support for iXML Metadata

The tone of your writing more than implies Adobe-bashing.

Given that I have been using their products for years, that is truly absurd. In fact, it was extensive use of their graphics programmes that led me to give Audition a try. If your intention was to turn me off on this forum, you have succeeded. This will be not only the first time that I've posted to this forum, but also the last.

Steve, I gather that you administer this forum. If there is some process for unsubscribing, perhaps you could let me know by IM what it is. Thanks.

I do think it is a shame if someone who might contribute something to a discussion about metadata is driven away.

As I tried to say before, the difficulty with metadata, even for those who work with it, is finding out exactly what is being used, for what, why and where. Anyone who can contribute practical experience should be welcome.  

Even if they are a little edgy.    OK back into my cave.

The question raised in my post happens to be of interest to just about anybody who is working in film or television, and for that matter radio, who is considering using Audition. (aloof) I would have thought that that would be obvious. (rude) The post has abosolutely nothing to do with advertising, although the link www.ixml.info does say what companies are supporting the standard. The question would be considered completely normal on any site that deals with location sound. (put-down)

As for the question of what recorder I'm talking about (rude) , Sound Devices has just released a new firmware revision that supports iXML. If Adobe isn't going to support the standard, it may have an impact on whether I continue to use Audition. For info on the Sound Devices release, see www.sounddevices.com and the forum at www.soundevicessupport.com. And no, I am not advertising. I have better ways to spend my time, including not wasting it responding to suggestions that that is what I am doing. (rude, aloof and put-down)

...(rude, aloof and put-down)

Come, now!  He got jumped on a little, and responded robustly, but not unreasonably.

Paul

I happened across this thread while doing some other research for a paper on metadata. After reading through all the posts, I must say that I am truly miffed at the response.

Here someone is asking a valid question regarding metadata support in Audition, and he gets stomped on!

While I have used both Audition 1.5 and 2.0 in the course of doing sound production for feature films, it has a long way to go before it reaches the capability of a program such as Pro-Tools or Nuendo. However, I have found it useful for doing basic tasks related to recording, editing and playback of sound files, both on location and in the studio.

What it does, it does pretty well. It would certainly have more applications (especially in audio archiving) if it had iXML support. (Though to be fair, Wavelab, the closest competitor, doesn't support it either).

However, based on my recent experiences with how iXML has been implemented in production (especially for track naming), it would seem like this is an issue that any serious contender will need to address fairly soon.

(Call me rude and aloof, but that's life in the movie biz)

Scott D. Smith C.A.S.
Production Mixer

I also just came across this thread today and read through it. My reaction was how arrogant Mr. Edge sounded starting with his first reply: 

The question raised in my post happens to be of interest to just about anybody who is working in film or television, and for that matter radio, who is considering using Audition. I would have thought that that would be obvious. The post has abosolutely nothing to do with advertising, although the link www.ixml.info does say what companies are supporting the standard. The question would be considered completely normal on any site that deals with location sound.

As for the question of what recorder I'm talking about, Sound Devices has just released a new firmware revision that supports iXML. If Adobe isn't going to support the standard, it may have an impact on whether I continue to use Audition. For info on the Sound Devices release, see www.sounddevices.com and the forum at www.soundevicessupport.com. And no, I am not advertising. I have better ways to spend my time, including not wasting it responding to suggestions that that is what I am doing.

OK so he wasn't advertising, but no one had jumped on him at that point, just asked the question. So I would say his response was way OTT, rude and self-important. When that happens people tend to get provoked, particularly when the poster is a newbie to the site. I thought Steve was very (unusually  ) restrained in his responses.

The whole subject may well be of vital interest to the entire industry - but there are ways of asking questions!

Also note that this is not an official Adobe forum, and so we discuss possible future plans only as interested outside observers.  Getting uppity here about what Adobe might or might not do is simply a waste of time (though we do have a suggestions forum which I imagine Adobe are aware of).  Any forum inmates who are beta testers may be privy to more information, but will stick strictly within their NDAs.

Paul