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pkers





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Post Posted - Wed Mar 28, 2001 11:40 am 

I'm having a bad sound from the start.
When i start up ce 2000 my level is allready at -30 db.
I think i've tried everything in the volume menu but there is no solution so far....
Who can help me?
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johnschultheiss





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Post Posted - Wed Mar 28, 2001 12:41 pm 

What kind of sound card are you using, and what are you hooking up to it? How is what you're hooking up to it hooked up? Are you using a mic, or an instrument? Do you go through a mixer, a preamp, or direct?

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Syntrillium M.D.


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Post Posted - Wed Mar 28, 2001 1:53 pm 

Specifically, what is 'bad'? Are you saying that Cool EDit is registering noise (with no sound coming in) at -30db? This is a bit excessive, but not unheard of, particularly if you are using a laptop with integrated sound, or an inexpensive soundcard.

Let us know the details

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pkers





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Post Posted - Thu Mar 29, 2001 8:27 am 

Its a integrated soundcard named SIS 7018.
Its build in a Jetway 630 cn motherboard.
I'm using an Marantz Amp hooked up to my souncard, with an Inkel mixer and a turntable. Even if i don't hook up the devices there's still the -30 db's......


Edited by - pkers on 03/29/2001 08:29:14 AM
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Syntrillium M.D.


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Post Posted - Thu Mar 29, 2001 10:02 am 

Hi there. Well, integrated sound cards are seldom hi-fi, let alone optimized for digital audio. The excessive noise could be a result of some improper grounding, and thus is picking up system noise, hard drive hum, etc.

You might try getting an updated driver (if possible) and see if that helps. Also, you can try recording into Sound Recorder and see if it exhibits the same noisy playback. No doubt, it most likely will, as CE and SR use the same resources for audio recording and playback.

You can test this problem by launching Windows Sound Recorder and recording from there.

Start Button > Programs > Accessories > Multimedia (Win 95 & NT) or Entertainment (Win 98 & ME) > Sound Recorder

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johnschultheiss





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Post Posted - Thu Mar 29, 2001 11:11 am 

Dude! -30 dB is pretty good, considering! I have a feeling you'll have to upgrade your soundcard to do better. If you turn down the record level in Windows Mixer, does it get better?

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Graeme

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Post Posted - Thu Mar 29, 2001 12:40 pm 

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Its a integrated soundcard named SIS 7018.


It's gotta go!!!

You need to buy something a little more up-market if you want good audio quality. Before you spring the money, make certain you can disable the on-board card first.

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johnschultheiss





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Post Posted - Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:46 am 

He may not need to disable the onboard card. I leave my piece of junk onboard sound card enabled and play the Windows sounds through it. But I don't let CoolEdit map through it for record or playback. Seems to work fine, but in a very crowded system, you might not be able to find enough DMA/IO/IRQ resources for both. This setup ensures that I'll never get a Windows noise in my mix or even in my headphones while mixing.

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Jay Marble





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Post Posted - Fri Mar 30, 2001 3:34 pm 




I would really recommend making a modest investment and buying a good soundcard.. While some stock cards give surprisingly good results, you always end up chasing down buzzes and humms. Usually the result of those annoying little 1/8th in jacks. As for sounds...I reccomend disabling all windows system sounds. According to my DARLA-manual, "windows sounds are sampled at very low rates, each time they are played it will cause the sample rate clock on Darla to reset to the lower speed." ...I am part of a reporter discussion group. We all use CE 2K, but have different soundcards. We were all having fits until the system sounds were turned off.
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dkistner





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Post Posted - Sun Apr 22, 2001 7:01 am 

I've read and implemented all the advice I've found here about soundcards (turning off Windows sounds, etc.) with the exception of moving the card to another slot, which I don't want to have to do.

I can clean up using the Audio Cleanup plugin, but I want to stop this at the source if possible.

I am using Harmony Assistant to compose music, then recording it in CE2K. Instruments that are related to digital output (wav) record just fine, no distortion. The midi-related instruments, however, turn up with annoying pops and crackles here and there. As best I can tell, it's happening in roughly the same places each time. I'm trying to see if I can isolate it to a single instrument (a tedious process).

I don't know if this is a problem with my new Sonic Implants (I doubt it), some kind of feedback from my system (I've got SB Live!Value, 1000mHz AMD Athlon Gateway system, Windows 2000, tons of RAM, on a 4-system LAN), Harmony Assistant itself, or what. My silent recordings seem pretty darned clean, so noise reducing with the profile doesn't do much.

I've tried mucking with my Good/Better/Best sampling settings in Control Panel>Sound and switching between Midi A and Midi B. I'm not a hardware/electronics expert by any stretch, and I also don't really understand what these settings do.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Diane
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