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Harvey Posts: 8	Posted - Sat Apr 14, 2001 9:07 am  If I go to a studio and have some work done and they use a 24 bit card with CEP and burn my session to CD for me. If I then take this session home and edit it on my system that has a 16 bit sound card is it really editing it in 16 bit or since there is no analog input and no line out playing is it perhaps editting in the 32 bit float? I hope I am explaining my question correctly. I understand the 24 bit for recording an analog signal into the system and for playing to the speakers. I am just wondering if when you edit a song like cutting and pasting waveforms and looping, if this uses the sound card? As if you cannot tell from this post, I am a new user. Thanks for any replies, Harvey
jonrose Location: USA Posts: 2901	Posted - Sat Apr 14, 2001 6:58 pm  Hello, Harvey! If you copy your session and audio files into the computer off the CD, you can edit at home, but you will have to adjust (under Options/Settings) your settings to have CEP play back your audio in 16-bit. (I am assuming you are just using the card as a playback device, to monitor your progress). All the best... -Jon :-) _________________
Harvey Posts: 8	Posted - Sat Apr 14, 2001 7:05 pm  Jon, So if I am editing a 24 bit waveform (recorded by a 24 bit card) on a system with a 16 bit card, I will NOT degrade it by having a (16 bit) card in my system? That's good news. Thanks Harvey Edited by - Harvey on 04/14/2001 7:08:43 PM Edited by - Harvey on 04/14/2001 7:10:30 PM
jonrose Location: USA Posts: 2901	Posted - Sat Apr 14, 2001 7:21 pm  Hello again... If you are not going into or out of the card with your audio at home, then no. It sounds to me like you are just using the card to listen. Of course, one can always make the argument for a better card, even if only to monitor at 24-bit... ;-D All the best... -Jon _________________
Harvey Posts: 8	Posted - Sat Apr 14, 2001 7:24 pm  That answers my question Jon! Thanks, I feel better now. Harvey
Jim Records Posts: 32	Posted - Mon Apr 16, 2001 10:47 am  I have a Plain Jane pc sound card. I have just the demo of Syntrillium Cool Edit 2000 30 day trial. My question is, should I upgrade to a better sound card? What benifit would I get by buying a more expensive sound card? Thank You JIM
Syntrillium M.D. Location: USA Posts: 5124	Posted - Mon Apr 16, 2001 11:04 am  Hello Jim. Well, upgrading your soundcard all depends on your needs. Standard PC soundcards are typically not really 'optimized' for digital audio, but can be very functional (ie, Soundblaster Live, Creative Audio PCI). These are 16-bit cards and deliver 'CD Quality' (theoretically) in that they can record at 16-bit, 44100hz. They are usually a bit noisy (-60dB noise floor) and will typically only have Stereo In/Out with 1/8" miniplugs, but for most applications, this is completely acceptable. If you are planning on doing any hi-level commercial quality recording, you'll probably want a card with at least 20-bit resolution, and something that is bit better than 1/8" inputs (RCA or 1/4" preferably). It just depends on your needs. Cool Edit and it's internal processing doesn't care either way. As posted, you can record in 16-bit, but convert your file and do all your processing in 32-bit, then convert back to 16-bit for CD burning. ---Syntrillium Support Edited by - syntrillium support on 04/17/2001 09:03:59 AM _________________
Jim Records Posts: 32	Posted - Fri Apr 20, 2001 6:14 pm  Quote: Hello Jim. Well, upgrading your soundcard all depends on your needs. Standard PC soundcards are typically not really 'optimized' for digital audio, but can be very functional (ie, Soundblaster Live, Creative Audio PCI). These are 16-bit cards and deliver 'CD Quality' (theoretically) in that they can record at 16-bit, 44100hz. They are usually a bit noisy (-60dB noise floor) and will typically only have Stereo In/Out with 1/8" miniplugs, but for most applications, this is completely acceptable. If you are planning on doing any hi-level commercial quality recording, you'll probably want a card with at least 20-bit resolution, and something that is bit better than 1/8" inputs (RCA or 1/4" preferably). It just depends on your needs. Cool Edit and it's internal processing doesn't care either way. As posted, you can record in 16-bit, but convert your file and do all your processing in 32-bit, then convert back to 16-bit for CD burning. ---Syntrillium Support Edited by - syntrillium support on 04/17/2001 09:03:59 AM Hi, I am back & I am Jim Records. I have been on the internet searching for a better sound card, & great new speakers. I found on SoundBlaster Creative Labs Live! a better card then I have now. Sound Card: Live!Platinum 5.1 Doby Digital. Speakers:Altec Lansing Thin-Profile 5 Piece Speakers System ATP-5 80 Watts 4 Channel. My present sound card will not except any more inputs,as I have a 10 Foot MIDI Cable hooked up to it.(They only sell 10 Foot cables, because anything longer will not work) Midi play back sounds great with my Yamaha Clavinova 4 speakers, & what highs from the tweeters! Bass is great also. How can I hook up on this cheap sound card, more inputs? Do I have to buy a Y splitter,in order to play back both Midi & digital Wave files I will creat. I would like to by-Pass my PC sound card output to these cheap speakers, & play them back into my professional Yamaha Clavinova, but as of now, I can only play back it, using my MIDI Files. I have a mini amplifier I bought from Radio Shack, & can not play them on my PC, as I have to use Aux.setting for Lp records in order to hear them on my regular speakers from a Panasonic Mini stereo receiver. So Inputs & outputs are limited on my present sound card. Can I get something that I can Cake & eat it also? Ok that's all folks.
Jim Records Posts: 32	Posted - Mon Apr 23, 2001 1:22 pm  Quote: Hello Jim. Well, upgrading your soundcard all depends on your needs. Standard PC soundcards are typically not really 'optimized' for digital audio, but can be very functional (ie, Soundblaster Live, Creative Audio PCI). These are 16-bit cards and deliver 'CD Quality' (theoretically) in that they can record at 16-bit, 44100hz. They are usually a bit noisy (-60dB noise floor) and will typically only have Stereo In/Out with 1/8" miniplugs, but for most applications, this is completely acceptable. If you are planning on doing any hi-level commercial quality recording, you'll probably want a card with at least 20-bit resolution, and something that is bit better than 1/8" inputs (RCA or 1/4" preferably). It just depends on your needs. Cool Edit and it's internal processing doesn't care either way. As posted, you can record in 16-bit, but convert your file and do all your processing in 32-bit, then convert back to 16-bit for CD burning. ---Syntrillium Support Edited by - syntrillium support on 04/17/2001 09:03:59 AM I am still searching for a better sound card, & I hope soon I will buy one. I went to a site called "Sweetwater", & ordered their catalog,& it arrived here 2 days later. I went to Sound cards, & saw the item I THINK I might buy. It's, 4in/4-out pro interface. This card specs said:Whether you're multitrack or MIDI recording,doing digital transfers or mastering, or converting Lps or cassettes to CD,the Audiophile 2496 can be sure of the finest sound possible. You get analog I/O on RCA jacks with 24 bit /96Hz conversion, while S/PDIF I/O and MIDI I/O hook you into digital devices and the world of MIDI Order No.#Audiophile 2496 midiman Audio Card List $249.95 Get the Catalog,& order online or by phone. They take credit cards, & also pay by personal Check. Another card is $50,00 more,& made by Delta 66 A PC Digital Audio Card. I might get this one! It delivers the ultimate in sonic purity via a full 24 bit digital signal path supporting sample rates of up to 95 Hz. Delta control panel software is also included. PC Dig audio Card: ... List $299.95. See page 41 of their catalog,& see the prices climb! For amateurs & professionals. Throw out that old cheap card,& get real & record those LP's the right way.
Syntrillium Support Location: USA Posts: 165	Posted - Mon Apr 23, 2001 2:48 pm  Hi Jim, Audiophile and delta 66 are both made by Midiman. If you had to pick one of the above, I would recommend Delta 66. It's a better card and it's worth the extra $50. You might also want to check out Delta 44. This is Delta 66's younger brother. Same number of inputs and outpusts as Delta 66 but it is missing SPDIF (digital in/out). So if you don't care about digital in/out, look into Delta 44. www.MarsMusic.com was selling Delta 44 for $229 last I checked. Here are some links to help you decide: http://www.midiman.com/m-audio/html/products/delta66.htm http://www.midiman.com/m-audio/html/products/delta44.htm --Syntnrillium Support _________________
tomcat Location: USA Posts: 345	Posted - Tue Apr 24, 2001 10:04 am  I just installed a "LynxOne" soundcard and it is fantastic (about $500.00). There is also a "LynxTwo" (a bit pricier). Check 'em out at <www.lynxone.com/products.html> _________________ Tom Robinson Production Supervisor WLAV/WKLQ/WODJ/WBBL Grand Rapids, Michigan
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