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yazmin · Posts: 43

Hi.
i have this plugin where you can remove sound (digital information)
that exists on both channels (L-R) and KEEP the information that does
not exist on both channels in a track.
This plugin was initialy designed for removing vocals that were
perfectly 'mixed-center' in a track, or otherwise information that
exists on both sides in a stereo-track.
but is there a plugin that can do also the reverse of what above described
plugin does ?

for example: lets say vocals in a track are mixed perfectly center,
so they can be removed perfectly with above mentioned plugin.
and lets say its done, the track is processed and the vocals
(exact same information that exists on both sides of a stereotrack) are gone.
but now its not the vocals that i wanted to loose
(the information that was there exactly the same on both channels),
but it was the óther information that i wanted to get rid of
(The information that DID NOT exist the same on both sides),
thus keeping the center information, the vocals.

you could say, from a programmers point of view, such an option could
be easily implemented, cause if you can tell a program to filter out
information that exists on both sides and keep the rest,
whynot do the opposite and throw away the data that does not exist
on both sides of the track and keep the center information
(the data that does exist on both cahnnels)?
digital tracks are all binary information anyway, so it shouldnt be
hard at all to program, its a simple A minus B-data end keep or loose
the rest orso..

but then again i'm not a programmer, and know very little about
programming languages so i could be wrong Smile

so this is kind of a little squeeky 'help' question.

but maybe some of you know a plugin that cán do such a thing.
Or....... better still, maybe syntrillium could implement such a
little option as a standard gimmick in one of their 'next' versions of cooledit.......
maybe?
as a little extra gimmick that wasnt hard to program, but expands the
domain in creativity for digital audio editors and musical enthausiasts!

somaybe this is more of question towards the programmers of syntrillium,
if such a plugin or feature did not exist already!

One thing i could come up with why the programmers of that plugin i was
talking about
didnt implement such a opposite-remove feature is because of
copyrights and vocals that can be stolen out of tracks..
but then again nearly none of all vocals are mixed perfectly center
in a track.
meaning you could never get a very clean residu either way,
but such a tool could be very usefull not only for extracting
vocals or background music,
but also lots of other things like in cases of experimintation in certain
audiofields that do not involve audio that needs to sound musicaly,
but more for measuring, sound analysis etc.....

, it's just a thought
and if you or syntrillium need to contact me if you have any questions for
whatever purpose regarding this idea, dont hesitate to cantact me!

best Regards!
Shanna@hetnet.nl

Graeme · Member Location: Spain Posts: 4663

AndyH · Posts: 1425

If you can actually get the vocals removed, but you instead want only the vocals, mix-paste inverted the without_vocals into the original file. Just the vocals will be left.

Since the first step is probably not going to be very clean (i.e. it is unlikely to result in exactly everything else except the vocals) the second operation will be still less pure, but if you actually had the original music before vocals were added, this combination would give you what you want.

post78 · Location: USA Posts: 2887

ozpeter · Location: Australia Posts: 3200

I guess Yasmin gets the prize for the longest ever version of this weekly question! See the sticky thread at the top of the 'Cool Edit' forum if you haven't already done so.

- Ozpeter

yazmin · Posts: 43

Sorry,sorry, sorry.
didnt mean to upset you fellas,
i did not know this was a weekly returning question.
i'm gonna try that invert thing you were talking about,

thanks.