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ramonwilliamson.com Posts: 3	Posted - Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:47 am  Anyone have a good dynamics processing setting for radio - I have want to boost the voice and give the person "great pipes" Thanks for your help. R
VoodooRadio Location: USA Posts: 3971	Posted - Wed Apr 09, 2003 12:00 pm  Give any of the compressor "presets" a test drive. They all sound good and with a little manipulation, they sound great!!! _________________ I said Good Day! Voodoo
ramonwilliamson.com Posts: 3	Posted - Wed Apr 09, 2003 12:15 pm  Thanks, I've test drove them and I need some exact settings. I have zero knowledge of what the settings can do. Thank you for any help you can provide.
SteveG Location: United Kingdom Posts: 6695	Posted - Wed Apr 09, 2003 12:59 pm  ramonwilliamson.com wrote: Thanks, I've test drove them and I need some exact settings. I have zero knowledge of what the settings can do. Thank you for any help you can provide. Not really possible, I'm afraid. We haven't got your material, we don't know exactly what you are after, and we wouldn't be doing you any favours at all. You could look at 'COMPRESSION & LIMITING' in the Tips and Tricks forum, for starters, and there are several more threads that go into more depth elsewhere on the main forum, that a search will reveal. Everybody who uses compression, or dynamic control successfully ends up tuning it by ear, because no two files for treatment are the same. You may find that a particular person, in a particular studio with a particular mic sounds best with one particular setting, and you can store that as a preset if you think that you'll use it again, but that's about as far as it goes - there are just too many options with all setups for 'recipies' to be any real use at all, except as a starting point. _________________
Craig Jackman Location: Canada Posts: 909	Posted - Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:18 am  ramonwilliamson.com wrote: Anyone have a good dynamics processing setting for radio - I have want to boost the voice and give the person "great pipes" Oh, so you want the mystical magic bullet that let's my 9 year old sound like James Earl Jones. Hate to break it to you but it doesn't exist. Compressors are used to reduce dynamic range, letting (in this case) voice stand out more in relation to the background you are putting with it. Compressors DO NOT give someone "great pipes"! You either have the pipes or you don't ... you can train your voice and your delivery to optimise what you have, but a plugin or hardware box is not a panacea. I'm 6-6 and my voice can get a little thin if I don't do the work in my delivery to make it the best I can. We have an annoucer on staff with HUGE pipes a la JEJ, but he's barely 5-2. You either have the voice or you don't. If you want a good compressor setting, try these on the traditional tab. ratio - 3:1 Threshold - -12db attack - .5ms release - 50ms make up gain - 5.5dB _________________ Craig Jackman Production Supervisor CHEZ/CKBY/CIOX/CJET/CIWW Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
ramonwilliamson.com Posts: 3	Posted - Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:47 am  Mega thanks --- R
the3jsgrve Location: USA Posts: 442	Posted - Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:41 pm  You might also play with EQ to add a little boost to the sound, but be careful not to overdo it or it will come out competely unnatural. Steve's right. You've either got the pipes or you don't. Good luck! I hope this all starts to make more sense to you. Josh _________________
Emmett Location: USA Posts: 59	Posted - Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:07 pm  Try a multiband dynamics processor. I love the Waves C4, but it's kind of pricey. DB audioware, I think has a good one. _________________ Emmett KPNT, St. Louis, MO
EdRadio Posts: 110	Posted - Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:10 pm  I'm sorry, but all the compression in the world is not going to add deep, rich, bellowing tones to an otherwise mid-to-high pitched voice. In most of the markets I work in, pipes are a thing of the past, and it's obvious if you listen to modern rock radio. Most of the DJs sound like kids, and that's intentional on part of the PDs and station owners (in an attempt to make the radio jocks sound familiar and hip to the kids; kids today think dudes with pipes are burned-out used car salesman-types) As an old-school guy with pipes, I can only suggest the following: 1) Try getting up early in the morning, do a few vocal warmups and THEN read your copy; your voice will naturally be lower and resonate a bit more at lower frequencies 2) Depending on the mic you're using, you'll want to take advantage of the proximity effect, taking caution not to overdo it, otherwise you'll encouter popping Ps and other hateful things. 3) Start smoking heavily. (j/k) Ed R.
Craig Jackman Location: Canada Posts: 909	Posted - Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:43 am  EdRadio wrote: In most of the markets I work in, pipes are a thing of the past, and it's obvious if you listen to modern rock radio. Most of the DJs sound like kids, That's because most DJs today ARE kids, who don't mind that all they can afford to live on is the contra case of Kraft Dinner. _________________ Craig Jackman Production Supervisor CHEZ/CKBY/CIOX/CJET/CIWW Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
VoodooRadio Location: USA Posts: 3971	Posted - Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:42 am  I definitely agree with the notion "that you can't reproduce what ain't there". Having pipes is like having talent, you either got them/it or you don't. While you might not sound like James Earl Jones...... a good choice of Mic combined with good technique, some judiscious compression and E.Q., will help an otherwise "thin" voice. _________________ I said Good Day! Voodoo
VoodooRadio Location: USA Posts: 3971	Posted - Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:19 am  bumpity, bump!! _________________ I said Good Day! Voodoo
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