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ROBSCIX
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Does any part of the community use Yamaha Mixers, I have been scoping them out in a local shop. I havent asked for any kind of demo yet but I will when I go in and slap down the cashola....any feedback would be appreciated. I seem to forget the model number but I think it a 8, or ten channel......any feedback would be appreciated.
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VoodooRadio
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| Posted - Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:29 pm |
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It's been years since I used a Yamaha mixer (early 80's). FWIW, check the price and then see how much Mackie mixer you can get for the same money. You'll come out way ahead in quality!! 
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ROBSCIX
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| Posted - Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:17 pm |
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I would love a mackie, I have heard nothing but good reviews....
maybe I will save up and comparison shop. I just wanted some review on equipment I find in local shops...which isn't alot.....but the do have a Mackie.....and a bunch of yamahas...
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Jax
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I recently purchased a Yamaha O1V digital mixer from ebay for 1100 Cdn. That's about 200 US  Love it. The mic pre's are good, but probably not as good as mackie or a separate mic pre bank. However, all the other cool features make up for it. 12 XLR ins, with discrete dyn proc on each channel, and 2 fx sends, plus 4 st buses. 8 ch toslink optical I/O and 4x1/4" omni outs (for anything you want). Great for live gigs too, because you can save fx,comp,eq presets, as well as entire console configurations.
Awesome for the $.
Jax.
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VoodooRadio
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| Quote: | | I recently purchased a Yamaha O1V digital mixer from ebay for 1100 Cdn. That's about 200 US |
| Quote: | | Awesome for the $. |
That's a serious "under" statement. At that price, you literally stoled it! Now, I don't feel so bad about my $1 SM57's! Thanks!!
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Craig Jackman
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That's a serious "under" statement. At that price, you literally stoled it! Now, I don't feel so bad about my $1 SM57's! Thanks!! [/quote]
Easy big fella, there was a great heaping spoonful of sarcasm that you didn't pick up on. While the multicoloured Candian dollar is worth less than the US greenback, it's not THAT bad. $1100 Cdn is something like $800 US. Still a good price, but not what you thought.
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AMSG
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| Craig Jackman wrote: | | That's a serious "under" statement. At that price, you literally stoled it! Now, I don't feel so bad about my $1 SM57's! Thanks!! |
| Quote: | | Easy big fella, there was a great heaping spoonful of sarcasm that you didn't pick up on. While the multicoloured Candian dollar is worth less than the US greenback, it's not THAT bad. $1100 Cdn is something like $800 US. Still a good price, but not what you thought. |
Hehe:D What's the deal with this canada/us 'rivalry'? I've noticed this before on tv for example.
And by the way...$800 US? Incredible! I also want such a mixer...but unfortunately they cost around $2800-3000 here....ugh:S>:K
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VoodooRadio
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| Quote: | | And by the way...$800 US? Incredible! I also want such a mixer...but unfortunately they cost around $2800-3000 here....ugh |
My point exactly! Still... given a choice between the two, I would still opt for a Mackie. However, that is a really good price on the O1V. 
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AMSG
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| VoodooRadio wrote: | | Quote: | | And by the way...$800 US? Incredible! I also want such a mixer...but unfortunately they cost around $2800-3000 here....ugh |
My point exactly! Still... given a choice between the two, I would still opt for a Mackie. However, that is a really good price on the O1V. |
Yes, mackie IS very good! That's true. But I like the sound effects libraries (is it called that way in english?hehe) that follow with the 01v. Some soundengineer (whose work I like) told me that he used the promix on alot of his and others records. I really like the way the reverb sounded for example.
But I also want it because I could compress some signals while recording, have extra inputs etc etc. It just seems a good thing to have since it would be a good addition to my aardvark q10.
That's all:D
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VoodooRadio
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| Quote: | | I like the sound effects libraries (is it called that way in english?hehe) that follow with the 01v. |
To each his/her own. Personally, I don't want a mixer with "built in" effects at all.
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jonrose
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Hey ROBSCIX,
Depends on what you're after, I suppose. Promix, O1V, and some of the smaller analog Yamahas are good stuff. As regards Yamaha's small mixers, I've only messed with an O2R and the 01V. They're all rather a far cry from a PM4000, but I liked them alright.
(for those that don't know, the PM4000 is a large-format analog desk - often seen as a touring workhorse)
Obviously, there are other decent deals on other brands, also - consider Mackie, Soundcraft, even Allen and Heath make nice little mixers (you hadn't really specified a price range...)
I think I've said this in other threads, but it's best to sit down, and write down what your perceived needs are (projected, future needs as well), corral a subgroup of those products that fit the bill (and some semblance of your price tolerance! Heh!), then go demo some of these before making a decision. If you're not located in or near a metropolitan area with big pro audio shops, it's really worth the trip, particularly if you consider this a major purchase (which you probably do, as it's central to a lot of people's setups, or at least at the front-end of the recording process).
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Best... -Jon
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ROBSCIX
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| Posted - Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:26 pm |
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I did that, I actually just wanted to get some feedback from actual owners, I don't have a very big studio YET.. But I know I definatley need a Mixer for the mics and such, I am on a tight budget right know, but I don't mind paying, If I am going to get returns on my recording process...sound quality I mean. I have seen some pics of really awesome home studios, racks mixers, nice monitors etc..
I just wanted a mixer that I won't outgrow for awhile, 8-12 channel would be nice. Everybody says..mackie, mackie....Alot of money. I was looking at the beringers..but I have seen alot of negative feedback on this forum. A local store has a few really nice Yamaha for around $200. The seem to be reasonable...
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clintfan
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I have an old 12-channel Yamaha mixer, like Voodoo I got it around 1980. It's mainly for sound reinforcement though. Tried it for recording, and there was just too much hum. One irritating thing was that, for the money, even though it had XLR connectors they weren't balanced: no transformers inside! Haven't used it for 20 years, it's still in the anvil case in storage, and weighs a ton.
Personally I'd take the Mackie advice, they are well respected and there is a pretty wide product line. At least get a demo of the Yamaha before you buy.
Hope this helps,
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| VoodooRadio wrote: | | Quote: | | I like the sound effects libraries (is it called that way in english?hehe) that follow with the 01v. |
To each his/her own. Personally, I don't want a mixer with "built in" effects at all. |
Yes, of course, everybody has different preferences. For me, it's also important to be able to transport some things easily. So then it's good to have as few pieces of equipment as possible (have to fly plane).
And the effects, well...you can store your own ones too. And the effect processors are the rev500 and proR3. Ah, whatever, it would be very good for me. I'm not a professional sound engineer so that mixer seems like a very priceworthy mixer to me8)
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ROBSCIX
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| Posted - Wed Jun 25, 2003 6:16 am |
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Ok, some feedback on Yamahas, these ones I was looking at are brand new. Now the general opinion on this forum is to try and get a mackie, even if I have to save for it. What is a good number of channels to start with. I guess the most I would need is to mic an entire drum kit. 8 channel should do it. The general Opinion is also the the "Deadringers" are out? If the are called "deadringers" because they "modelled" Mackies Hardware then wouldn't this be an alternate choice? Oh yeah I read that The Mic Pre's are less then ideal, This is one thing I definatley don't want to scrimp on. So a small mackie is probably my best shot for performance to price ratio?
it's just they are so expensive....I wanted to get a mixer and a nice mic at the same time. Then just add mics as I need them. Ok so what are you guys using for mixers right now. I just want something with low noise floor, enough channels to work with, and nice quiet preamps for my mics....
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VoodooRadio
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| Posted - Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:04 pm |
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| Quote: | | Ok so what are you guys using for mixers right now. |
Mackie CR1604vlz and an older Allen & Heath Sr16. 32 channels combined.
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| Quote: | | Ok so what are you guys using for mixers right now. |
Mackie 32x8 with two sidecars, Alesis studio 32 and, like Voodoo, an older Allen & Heath SR16. Heh! That's actually pretty damn funny, Voodoo. I didn't realize you were using an A&H, too.
I think the A&H is going to go away, though - A friend needs a small mixer for his string band, and I promised I'd find him a decent one. We really don't need it here anyway, with the big Mackie, and I wouldn't knowingly send that Alesis board anywhere - they're just not tough enough for road work. Come to think of it, they might not even be tough enough for menial studio work... it's certainly had more than its share of problems. So it may actually disappear, too.
(maybe into the nearest skip!   Heh-heh!)
Best... -Jon
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Craig Jackman
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| Posted - Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:15 am |
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| ROBSCIX wrote: | | Ok so what are you guys using for mixers right now. |
Lets see here ... my main production studio has a Mackie 32x8 ... our secondary production studios (3 of them) have Mackie 1642's ... our voiceover only rooms (3 of them) have Mackie 1402's. There's another 1402 sitting around here somewhere as a spare. Yes, we like Mackie A LOT. Our plush suburban/out of town studio has a Behringer MX-somethingsomething which isn't as good but was sitting around doing nothing. On air studios are generally Ward-Beck with one exception which is a custom configured Wheatstone.
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