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TerraFORM





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Post Posted - Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:55 pm 

What format must my *.wav files be saved in for a stereo component CD player (i.e., a cd player of a home stereo) to be able to read them?

I've discovered a 'regular' *.wav will not be read, nor will a *.aif or *.snd (as I was told by a colleague).

In short, what format must a file be in for it to be readable on a CD Player (NOT one within a computer, but like on a home system). I searched forums/tutorials, BTW. Thanks.
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Pro_Support





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Post Posted - Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:46 pm 

The file must have a sample-rate/bit-depth/channels of 44100/16-bit/Stereo. (You can see this in the status bar at the very bottom of Cool Edit's window when in Edit View.)

The file must be saved as a "Windows PCM" .wav file.

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SoloTune


Location: USA


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Post Posted - Wed Jul 23, 2003 3:06 am 

Hmmm, I don't mean to argue with Pro-support, Blush , but I don't think thats quite right. A ".wav" file is still a computer file. Stand-alone CD players won't read them. The .wav file must be written to the CD as a .cda file, (which, btw, isn't a file format at all, but simply the three letter designation that Windows puts on a file on a CD that it can't read.)

The bottom line is, when you "burn" the CD, your CD writing software should have the option to create an audio disk that can be played in any player. The software will then automatically make the conversion to proper format, also refered to as the "Reed-Solomon cross-interleave code." I believe this is also called the "Redbook" standard.

Edit: BTW - Some serious changes around here since I been gone! Shock
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Gulliver


Location: Estonia


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Post Posted - Wed Jul 23, 2003 3:16 am 

SoloTune wrote:
Hmmm, I don't mean to argue with Pro-support, Blush , but I don't think thats quite right. A ".wav" file is still a computer file. Stand-alone CD players won't read them. The .wav file must be written to the CD as a .cda file, (which, btw, isn't a file format at all, but simply the three letter designation that Windows puts on a file on a CD that it can't read.)
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Pro_Support wrote: The file must be saved as a Windows PCM (44100/16-bit/Stereo) .wav file. Saved, not burned.
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SoloTune


Location: USA


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Post Posted - Wed Jul 23, 2003 3:28 am 

Gulliver wrote:
. . . Saved, not burned.


Hi Gulliver, I realize that, but its clear from Terra's post that he/she is trying to "play" a CD in a stand-alone player. In order to get the music into the player it must be written to a CD as audio data, not a wave, or any other "computer" file format. :)

Edit: Hmmm, I think I see the aspect of my post that you're taking issue with. I might be confusing Terra by my " . . . not quite right" statement. So Terra, just to clarify this, what pro-support is saying about the wave format is absolutely correct insofar as "saving" it the hard drive. However, when you ultimately "burn" the CD, make sure you select the option in your CD writing software to create an audio CD that can be played in any player option, (or something similiar to that.)

Hope I haven't mucked this up too bad. Big Grin
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Gulliver


Location: Estonia


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Post Posted - Wed Jul 23, 2003 4:07 am 

SoloTune wrote:
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Hope I haven't mucked this up too bad. Big Grin


Oh, no. Just a little. Big Grin
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Craig Jackman


Location: Canada


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Post Posted - Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:26 am 

We may be missing something in that it may be the PLAYER not reading CDR's ... older ones have a habit of not doing that.

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MusicConductor


Location: USA


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Post Posted - Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:20 am 

But let's be perfectly clear on the basic issue: TerraFORM must select the desired type of CD to be burned, and it sounds like a DATA CD-ROM is what had been selected (since either a .wav or .aif file can exist in Audio CD-compatible 16bit/44.1KHz). Instead, choose Audio CD, make sure your files conform to that sample type, and you'll be in business.
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Pro_Support





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Post Posted - Wed Jul 23, 2003 11:03 am 

Ah yes...perhaps I misread the original question. I thought that TerraFORM was having trouble getting his/her burning software to recognize the audio files for burning to an Audio CD. As I re-read the original question, it sounds more like he/she is burning data CD's, rather than audio CD's.

Still, prior to burning the audio CD, you'll want your files in the format that I (and many others) mentioned.

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MusicConductor


Location: USA


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Post Posted - Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:12 pm 

...and of course by now TerraFORM has abandoned audio in favor of researching the hibernation periods of the cicada and other obscure insects.Big Grin
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