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lmdks
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VoodooRadio
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FWIW, I would choose the Mackie over a Behringer anyday. As for the difference in the DFX12 and the 1402 VLZ mixers. The DFX12 (stands for Digital Effects) has effects built into the mixer and is a 12 channel mixer. The 1402 (you guessed it...) has the ability to utilize 14 inputs. It does NOT have any built in effects, but rather has a Auxillary send/return that facilitates using "outboard" (i.e., stand-alone) effects. For "live" gigging, where you try to haul around as little as possible... the "built in effects" boards are becoming quite popular. However, if your going to use the board for a project studio/recording, you don't need to pay the extra money for the effects (CEP's effects are superior to what your gonna find built in a board). Additionally, IMO... the preamps in the VLZ series mixers, sound better than the preamps in the DFX series ones. Mind you, that Mackie has superceded the regular VLZ series with VLZ Pro and again, I don't think the VLZ Pro sounds are good as the regular VLZ's. All these opinions stated, I would seriously recommend listening to whatever you intend to purchase to ensure your happy with your expenditure. 
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What he said, although I've not yet decided on the relative sonic merits of the different pre's. There's no way I'd buy a Beh[t:d90c89ed45]Dead[/t:d90c89ed45]ringer mixer, although one or two of their other badge-engineered products may have some merit.
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lmdks
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thank you so much for your help. i think i've learned more from this board than any other recording forum on the internet.
i think i'll go with the mackie... i guess i just wanted to make sure it wasn't a piece of junk, as it is their lower-end line.
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Craig Jackman
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The 1402 also has much better 3-band eq rather than the fixed 2-band on the DFX. The 1402 has an ALT bus (not the aux sends, those are different) that will facilitate recording and over dubbing. Not certain, but I don't the the DFX has that. Both are a much better choice than the Behringer.
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djwayne
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I bought my Mackie 24x8x2 about 8-10 years ago and have used it extensively thru-out that time, and never had a problem with it so far, plus it has tons of patching options, sounds great and works just as good today as it did when I bought it. The meter bridge meters are showing a little wear, but other than that, it's like new. All the sliders and channels work great. I've had experience with other mixers that couldn't live up to these things over time. The Mackie was a very good buy for me. They use quality components, which stand the test of time.
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SteveG
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| lmdks wrote: | thank you so much for your help. i think i've learned more from this board than any other recording forum on the internet.
i think i'll go with the mackie... i guess i just wanted to make sure it wasn't a piece of junk, as it is their lower-end line. |
Mackie realised long ago that pros use small mixers as well as big mixers - the whole Mackie range has a pretty consistent quality about it. They've had the odd slip-up, but these are very few and far between. It's pro-quality kit - all of it.
Like djwayne, back in the dark ages (studio days) I bought a Mackie 8-buss. The first one in the UK in fact- which hacked off a few reviewers, because I had one before they'd even seen it... It's still in the studio 9+ years later - been used just about every day, and has never gone wrong once. Which is more than I can say for some of the other kit in there! Make that most of the other kit in there...
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I've got a Mackie 1604VLZ that I run in tandom with an Allen & Heath SR16. FWIW, the Mackie has never shown one bit of trouble. I preamps sound good and with the A&H I get a couple of options on board pre's. The Mackie has great routing options that allow me to leave an Alesis ADAT XT patched up through bay. 
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