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NameItSelf
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Posted - Tue Oct 29, 2002 6:41 pm |
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hello. I was wondering if anyone has any coments about behringer mixer boards. I've been thinking of purchasing one thanks to harmo's advice in another thread. Does anyone know the real difference between the "ub series" boards and the analog boards? Other than the implied digital or analog. and if thats the only difference, which is better? thanks
also, this is absolutly the most helpful forum I've ever participated in.
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Craig Jackman
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Posted - Wed Oct 30, 2002 6:02 am |
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There really is nothing WRONG with Behringer products. They are generally just copies of something else done cheaper. Since they use cheaper materials and assembly processes, they generally don't last as long. They have a very low resale value compared to something like the equivilant Mackie. Across the product line, there is nothing truely outstanding, but there isn't much that is truely horrid either.
... and yes, I've bought a Behringer board in the past, and I currently have a Composer comp/limtier.
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Graeme
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Posted - Wed Oct 30, 2002 12:04 pm |
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Unless I have misread the specs incorrectly, the UB series are analogue. What they do have, which makes them different from the rest of the range, is an internal digital FX processor.
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jonrose
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Posted - Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:04 pm |
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Graeme is on the money...
Behringer does make the DDX3216 digital mixer, but I don't think you wanna go there... at least not until the glue dries. Although it's been out for a few months now, it's still relatively new, and it's their first digital desk.
Best.... -Jon
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SteveG
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Posted - Wed Oct 30, 2002 5:25 pm |
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| jonrose wrote: | | Behringer does make the DDX3216 digital mixer, but I don't think you wanna go there... at least not until the glue dries. Although it's been out for a few months now, it's still relatively new, and it's their first digital desk. |
I think I'd wait and see who sues them first...
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jonrose
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Posted - Sat Nov 02, 2002 4:30 pm |
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jester700
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Posted - Sat Nov 02, 2002 7:45 pm |
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I dunno if I'd make a Behringer piece the heart of my studio...
But some of their stuff is an outright steal, particularly after the recent price cuts (in the USA, anyway). I got a perfectly functional crossover for my little PA for $80. I recently got their V-Amp2 guitar modeling thingy, and it really does a nice job for $125-ish. or a newbie who can't afford an RNC, the Composer is a functional compressor for $100 that at least is better than the dreadful but popular Alesis unit. and their programmable digitalEQ and mutiband comp units are like $200 now, down from 3 or 4 TIMES that price! I was considering getting one unheard for that price...
So, take a look, just look carefully.
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SteveG
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Posted - Sun Nov 03, 2002 11:00 am |
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So I suppose that means because they're having trouble selling the stuff, they're starting to give it away? If they can sell it this much cheaper and still make a profit, this begs quite a few questions...
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jester700
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Posted - Sun Nov 03, 2002 4:50 pm |
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| SteveG wrote: | | So I suppose that means because they're having trouble selling the stuff, they're starting to give it away? If they can sell it this much cheaper and still make a profit, this begs quite a few questions... |
I figured they just amortized their legal fees and were turning toward greater market share... ;-)
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Craig Jackman
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Posted - Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:51 am |
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| jester700 wrote: | I dunno if I'd make a Behringer piece the heart of my studio...
But some of their stuff is an outright steal, particularly after the recent price cuts (in the USA, anyway). I got a perfectly functional crossover for my little PA for $80. I recently got their V-Amp2 guitar modeling thingy, and it really does a nice job for $125-ish. or a newbie who can't afford an RNC, the Composer is a functional compressor for $100 that at least is better than the dreadful but popular Alesis unit. and their programmable digitalEQ and mutiband comp units are like $200 now, down from 3 or 4 TIMES that price! I was considering getting one unheard for that price...
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Like I said, there really is nothing wrong with their stuff. The POD is better than the V-Amp, but the V-amp does what it says. The Composer is your basic 2ch compressor, which is pretty difficult to screw up. If you can get Behringer cheap, and don't jump in with the expectation of best-in-the-world equipment, you'll be pleased with it. Don't expect instant audio nirvana as it just isn't going to happen. For the home hobby-ist, or cheap demo studio, it will fill it's role. As your skills and results improve, Behringer will be among the first things you'll want to upgrade.
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kylen
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Posted - Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:01 am |
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| Quote: | | or a newbie who can't afford an RNC |
Hi jester700,
Do you have an RNC? I'm researching them and would use it as an outboard on the master buss during pre-mastering using either CEP or Sonar.
Thanks,
kylen
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Kurator
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Posted - Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:07 pm |
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| Quote: | | Does anyone know the real difference between the "ub series" boards and the analog boards? Other than the implied digital or analog. and if thats the only difference, which is better? thanks |
The biggest difference between the two series is that UB is replacing MX slowly but surely. You canīt buy some products from the MX series anymore. Behringer says that the UB series is the best mixers they have made including their new "IMP" preamp, but I have never seen an objective comparision that would justify Behringers statement.
In any case Behringerīs a very competetive brand and even if I use Mackie I canīt say that I hear the difference between the mixers. That is scary!
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SteveG
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Posted - Fri Jun 27, 2003 5:11 am |
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| Kurator wrote: | In any case Behringerīs a very competetive brand and even if I use Mackie I canīt say that I hear the difference between the mixers. That is scary!  |
Hmm... I think that I can smell the difference...
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Kurator
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Posted - Fri Jun 27, 2003 6:03 am |
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| Quote: | Hmm... I think that I can smell the difference... [/quote]
The smell of DEATH I presume? :D
OK, there must of course be some differences between the two brands, but I get some vibes that most pro musicians and audio engineers donīt accept Behringer just because of that it is Behringer. It seems like the brand never gets a fair chance when it comes to proffessional engineering.
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SteveG
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Posted - Fri Jun 27, 2003 6:25 am |
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No, not death...
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jester700
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Posted - Fri Jun 27, 2003 6:59 am |
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| kylen wrote: | | Quote: | | or a newbie who can't afford an RNC |
Hi jester700,
Do you have an RNC? I'm researching them and would use it as an outboard on the master buss during pre-mastering using either CEP or Sonar.
Thanks,
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Yes. I have two in fact, since they're stereo and not dual mono. They are clean units. As such, if general outboard compression/limiting is what you're after, they'll do better than anything I can think of near their price.
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kylen
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Posted - Fri Jun 27, 2003 7:12 am |
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RNC it is then! OK, thanks jester!:)
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