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vortex30 · Posts: 1

Hello I just downloaded that one voice remover plugin from
http://www.analogx.com/. However how do I actually use it or activiate it within cool edit 2000 or cool edit pro 2.0. I would like to remove voice from a few songs but I do not know how to install 3rd party directx plugins such as this. Could someone point me in the right direction? Thanks.

Graeme · Member Location: Spain Posts: 4663

Just run the installation executable and then tell CE to search for plug-ins and it will find it.

When it doesn't remove vaocals properly, please do not come backe here asking how to do it. Go to the tips and tricks section instead - http://forums.syntrillium.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=16

ozpeter · Location: Australia Posts: 3200

In Cool Edit 2000 I think you need first to download the DirectX enabling add-on from the downloads section of this site. Cool Edit Pro 2.0 is already DX enabled.

See also 'Vocal removal or Instrument removal' concerning vocal removal in general.

- Ozpeter

VoodooRadio · Location: USA Posts: 3971

For vocal removal.... start here;

www.syntrillium.com

;)

JACKVILLE · Location: Canada Posts: 23

Hey i don't wanna be rude but if you wanna remove the vocal from a song , try to look for the karaoke version of your song . iknow somethimes it sounds bad but some are ok. if you find a really good vocal remover let me know cuz i've tried some and Grrr!
Good luck!

ShoNuffDogg · Location: USA Posts: 6

uhhh, uhm guys the only thing you need to do in order to plug-in DX accessories is to install them in the "coolpro2" (or whatever version you have)directory, example: c:\Program Files\Coolpro2 .

Having installed "DX plug-in(s)" in the target directory, next time you launch CEP, go to edit view mode, click on effects on the menu or tool bar, then just select or click on "Refresh Effects List" option at the very bottom. Wink

Graeme · Member Location: Spain Posts: 4663

VoodooRadio · Location: USA Posts: 3971

Graeme · Member Location: Spain Posts: 4663

Actually, I keep all my DX plug-ins in a directory called DXplugs and all my VST plug-ins in one called VSTplugs. This is a lot better than having them scattered all over the system.

ShoNuffDogg · Location: USA Posts: 6

Plum Ignernt · Posts: 25

There's more to the question that has yet to be answered. What if CE 200 or CEP doesn'trecognize the plug-in. I came here looking for that answer. too. I've had that vocal remover plug-in for about two years (for CE 2000) and now I'm having the same problem with CEP not recognizing numerous plug-ins. Why not?

ozpeter · Location: Australia Posts: 3200

Have you used 'Transform > DirectX > Refresh this list'? - that should sort it - assuming you have the CE2000 DirectX upgrade installed.

- Ozpeter

VoodooRadio · Location: USA Posts: 3971

Oz's description details how to put the plug-in on the list upon initial installation. (which is the procedure for "refreshing" your list) I would be most concerned with "why" I need to "refresh" the list.. If you've performed some software uninstall/install procedures recently then I could understand the dilemma, but to just "not show up" one day would kinda freak me out!! Shy

Plum Ignernt · Posts: 25

Maybe I wasn't exactly clear about the problem...
What if I doesn't recognize the plug-in after I ask it to search for new plug-ins? Over the past three years, I must have asked CE2000 a hundred times to search for new plug-ins, but it never finds some. Before, it was just a stupid, free AnalogX Vocal Remover, but now I've got some cool new stuff to try out and it really aggravates me that they seem invisible.

Since this is a third-party plug-ins forum... I have tried out iZotope's Vinyl simulator--very cool. I sure could have used that about a year ago. And it's free! Not "we couldn't sell this crap anyway" free, but "we want your business, so here's a free sample" free.

P.I.

Blaine · Posts: 19

Plum Ignernt - Don't worry about any plug-in problems you are experiencing, Syntrillium is fixing them all as we speak... Just don't ask when this is going to arrive on your Desktop! Sad

ozpeter · Location: Australia Posts: 3200

Hmm.. have you tried a plug-in manager? There's some to be downloaded free on the net I believe, and might un-corrupt whatever seems to be corrupted somewhere on your system.

- Ozpeter

Plum Ignernt · Posts: 25

Thanks for the info about Syntrillium fixing the plug-in invisibility problem. Hopefully the fix will come soon (notice I didn't ask how long it might take). As far as me not worrying: while I do feel a little better knowing "someone" is working on it, I still can't try out a new plug-in that I really want to be as good as "they" want me to think it is. And that's frustrating.

For anyone else who might be having the same problem, here's what I have learned about trying to "fix" it:

1) I tried moving all my plug-ins to one folder inside CEP's folder for convenience, as someone suggested here. The CEP remembers where you got your last impulse file or convolver or whatever and explorer wants to look in that folder first, so I thought if they were all in the same directory, or nearby, I'd spend less time looking through my Program Files for VST plugs and whatnot. I also thought maybe if CEP was successful at finding the plug-in in this folder, the others would have more success. This was a bad idea because the registry files point to a specific location on the hard drive. Moving the files around made all the plug-ins disappear. So, now I'm trying to remember the folder names I deleted, the locations, etc, and while the registry indicates in some cases where it thinks the files are, some I can't find in the registry. I probably should have just un- and re-installed all my plug-ins, carefully ignoring the installer's suggestions for directories and using the folders I wanted for convenience's sake.

2) I guess I don't really need a numbered list--I haven't learned all that much yet.

Anyone else have ideas that work?

Graeme · Member Location: Spain Posts: 4663

kpt.nm · Posts: 1

Yes, I have similar problem with CEP not seeing all my DX plugins! Actually, it does not see anything I have from Waves (Native Gold bundle, etc.) Although other apps, like WaveLab or Nuendo see them all� I tried to un- and re-install these plugins, then selected Refresh option in CEP, nothing happened. I did not use any plugin managers. Anyone knows how to make these plugins visible???

Or is the only solution to wait for Syntrilium fix?

VoodooRadio · Location: USA Posts: 3971

Is your Waves bundle registered? Maybe.... if it's a download, you didn't get all the associated files (particularly the one that allows it to be recognized). Shy

oretez · Posts: 181

synt's got DX issues . . . some (maybe all) they are aware of and are largely not talking

my experience, for my systems, tends to point to 'registry conflicts' as the proximal trigger for DX issues (and I've had all the frustrations with wanting to continue to use CE but needing access to a plug in it seemingly would never recognize)

system has been pretty stable for over a year, but just this week for no reason I could determine (no new software installed, no changes to system structure) CE2K would no longer recognize any DX plug ins . . .I reinstalled the DX manager add on and all but one of the plugs reemerged . . . but the oddest thing was that for two of the plug ins (but not all of them) I 'lost' the presets . . . this is not only not behavior I've never experienced before but does not really make sense to me

and while I will eventually pick up CEP 2. as an impulse purchase one of the things that as slowed the acquisition are doubts about plug in behavior

and my guess is as the audio market matures that plug ins will become more rather than less important . . .

and synts unwillingness to talk about any of this is as big an issue as the anomalies themselves

Plum Ignernt · Posts: 25

Thanks to everyone who has replied to this topic with suggestions, corroborating experiences, etc...

Who wants to suggest a good plug-in manager? I use DX and I have a wrapper for VSTs, as well.

Oretz seems to have re-discovered his diappeared plug-ins with one; perhaps it may help me. Regardless of the visibility, why do I really need a "manager" for plug-ins.

VoodooRadio · Location: USA Posts: 3971

ozpeter · Location: Australia Posts: 3200

Try http://perso.wanadoo.fr/vb-audio/us/mm/plugman/vb_plugman.htm for a plug-in manager (don't blame me for any adverse effects, however!). BTW The four-effects rack from that site is worth a try too.

When oretez referred to "I reinstalled the DX manager add on " I think he was referring to the Cool Edit 2000 DX module itself.

- Ozpeter

ShoNuffDogg · Location: USA Posts: 6